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Monday, February 23, 2009

Indecision

Sol

On Friday, we executed our very own Veterinary Stimulus Plan taking Luna, Sol & Henry to the eye specialist and Sol to the specialist to find out more about the malignant tumor in her mouth.  All went well at the eye doctor.  Luna’s eyes are holding steady, Henry possibly has some floaters and while Sol has cataracts she has pretty good vision.  Her main issue is with her close up vision and the Dr. assured us that that is normal with aging.

The appointment at the specialist for Sol’s mouth was a doozy.  Just being in the building is a depressing experience.  It isn’t like being at a normal vet’s office where the waiting room is filled with dogs and cats most of which are just in for routine care needs.  The waiting room at the specialist was quiet, filled with animals all needing care for very serious issues, many of which were life threatening.  You could see the worry on owners’ faces.  There were many tears being shed.

Unsure of what to expect, we quietly sat in the waiting room with all four pugs.  Sol’s name was called and we went to her room with the pugs in tow.  The vet tech smiled and made a joke about how Sol brought her pack for support.  After a few minutes the doctor entered the room, introduced herself, met Sol and then proceeded to ask us many questions.  We answered the questions as best as we could considering Sol has been in our care for less than two months.  After the question and answer session, they took Sol to the back for her examination and we went back into the waiting room.  After about a half an hour they called us back to the room to discuss the examination and to discuss the possible treatment options.

They confirmed what we already knew.  Sol had a gingival pappillary (verrucous) squamous cell carcinoma in her lower right jaw between the incisor and canine firm.  During her dental cleaning a tumor approximately 8mm in size was removed for testing.  Their recommendation was to do a set of chest xrays along with testing of fluid from the mandibular lymph nodes (if they were able to get a sample).  These tests would help determine if the cancer had spread or stayed localized.  If the results came back clear, the recommended treatment plan would be a CT scan and based on the CT scan results a hemi, partial or rostral mandibulectomy would be in order.  In regular terms, to get rid of the cancer they would need to remove part of her jaw.  How much and which direction they would need to go would be determined by the CT scan.

As they were delivering the news, I was trying my best to take everything in but it seemed like with every word they spoke 5 more questions popped into my head.  By the time they got to discussing the possibility that Sol might need radiation if they did not get “clean margins” on the tumor removal my head was pounding.  Really?  This is the recommended treatment plan?

We talked with the doctor and got answers to many of our questions.  But even though our questions were being answered my confidence in what to do and how to proceed was not getting any stronger.  After hearing what was involved, I asked the doctor what she thought was the right thing to do for Sol given her age (now upped to 13 as per the eye specialist just an hour ago).  I let them know that I hadn’t given up on her because she is on the older side, but I also wanted them to know that my main concern was her quality of life.  Would a surgery to remove part of the little girl’s jaw be more than she could handle?  They assured me that Sol could handle the surgery and that they would not recommend that treatment plan if they didn’t think she would be able to make a full recovery.  Her bloodwork was normal, her kidneys and liver were all operating properly, her heart sounded good.  Except for the fact that she had cancer, Sol was a perfectly healthy 12 (or 13?) year old pug.  As long as her chest xrays and the lymph node tests came back clear she was an ideal candidate for the surgery.  The answer only gave us more things to ponder.

We also asked them, what would be the treatment options if we did not have the surgery.  Pain management was their answer.  Given the nature of this type of tumor it will continue to grow both above and below the gumline.  As the tumor grows into the jaw bone it becomes quite painful.  At some point, Sol would need to be put on medication for the pain.  The medication would help her manage the pain, but when taken long term it would also put a strain on her liver and/or kidneys (I can’t remember which one or both they said at this point) which would most likely result in failure after about a year’s time.

My next line of questions all pertained to radiation and how they would make the determination if it was even necessary and how this is administered to a dog.  (Again, reflecting on the recent trauma Sol’s Grammy had endured.)  Radiation would only be recommended if they did not get clean margins when they removed the tumor.  What clean margins means is that the edges of the tumor do not test positive for cancer.

We talked for a bit more and then we gave them the go ahead to do chest xrays and to try to test the fluid from Sol’s mandibular lymph nodes.  We didn’t need to make a decision that moment and those tests might make our decision for us.  We went to sit in the parking lot to wait.

After about an hour they let us know that Sol’s chest xrays were clear and that they were uanable to get any fluid from her lymph nodes.  The lymph nodes were very small, which was a good sign in itself.  They also took a urine sample to send out for a urinalysis.  The results of that test will be in on Monday and if all is well, Sol will be ready for a CT Scan.  The CT Scan will show them where exactly the cancer is and will dictate how much jaw they will need to remove and in what direction.  There is a possibility that the CT Scan will show that the cancer has spread too far and surgery is not a viable possibility.  However, they do the CT Scan the day of the surgery so we will not know what the scan reveals until we have already made our decision.

As I write this, I can honestly say we have not made a decision yet as what to do.  The surgery seems so invasive and the thought that radiation might be needed is too much to even think about.  All I want is for Sol to live out her last years healthy and happy.  We could have the surgery, they could get clean margins and Sol could adjust perfectly fine (they say dogs adjust very well to their new jaw after the surgery).  Or we could have the surgery, they might not get clean margins and then we would have to face radiation and it might not fully rid the cancer from her mouth.  Or we could do nothing and monitor her pain and wait until it is necessary to put her on pain medicine at which time we know it is the beginning of the end.  What’s the right answer?  What is the best treatment plan for Sol?  What is best for Sol is the only thing that I trying to let influence my decision.  I’m trying not to think about the money aspect either because none of this is cheap.  At this point we are talking thousands and if radiation is necessary we will be approaching the 5 figure mark.  I am just trying to look into Sol’s eyes and find the right answer.  An answer we can all live with regret free.


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Punchbugpug

02/23/2009

It’s all so overwhelming, isn’t it?  I know this decision is going to be hard for you all, but in the end, you guys do know what is best for her.  How great that her lungs, heart, and kidneys are doing great!  I wish you the best of luck and many hugs as you decide what to do!

Love,
Punchy

PS I think Sol and Marty might be long lost siblings?

Bethany

02/23/2009

My heart goes out to you and your pack of beautiful pugs.

Sol is a darling.. and we all know you will do the best you can do to make her life good.

You are in our prayers…

Beth

Julie

02/23/2009

I ache for you and the stress of having to make this decision for Sol…especially with ties to the pugs’ Grammy’s health weighing on you.  I wish it was easy!  At the same time, I’m confident that whatever decision you make, it will be the right one, given the information you have available.  Sorry that you have this stress—but know that your “blog family” members love and support you and your puggy family.  I hope the pugs themselves will provide a ton of relief with their goofy pug antics!

Marcia

02/23/2009

All of this must be terrible over whelming for you and the decision is a very difficult one to make.  You will be in my thoughts and prayers as you poner this.

Sue VDB

02/23/2009

I sympathize with the torture you are going through to determine the best way to handle little Sol’s condition.  My prayers and thoughts are with you.  She is such a darling little girl and hopefully she will give you the answers you need. The fact all of her organs are strong may help you.  Stay strong, you have a whole group of people with you and Sol in their thoughts and prayers.

Pat

02/23/2009

Wow!! What a day at the specialists.  I too would sat numbed by all that I had heard.
For her age, it is encouraging that her organs and over all health is fantastic.
The decision will be difficult, and I am sure the doctors will provide you with all the necessary info to help Sol and your family thru this time.
You are all in my thoughts and prayers, take care.

Jennifer

02/23/2009

~ thoughts and prayers for Sol and your whole family from Kansas…  god bless you all.

Kim

02/23/2009

Wow, that’s alot to take in. Our oldest pug Romeo (14 years old) passed right after Thanksgiving about two months after we found out he had a tumor about the size of an orange attached in 4 places to his liver. We decided not to operate because the chances of him recovering and them being able to remove the whole tumor were slim. I was one of the hardest decisions we ever had to make. Romeo was our first pug and started us on our love of the breed. We were up to 4 pugs too. Try to keep in mind Sol came to you for a reason and I’m sure she’s grateful for the love you will give her no matter what happens.

Martha

02/23/2009

I’m so sorry that Sol and you have to go through this.  My thoughts and my prayers are with you.
Love,
Martha and Bennie

Sleighbelle

02/23/2009

Wow,
Just reading this morning’s blog, I am overwhelmed, so I can only imagine what you are going through.  I am so very sorry for Sol, and for you.  What a terrible decision to make.  My pug prayers go out to you and Sol’s “pack” (I like that!).

Lisa Gibson

02/23/2009

Its never an easy decision. I’ll keep you and Sol in my thoughts.

Mandy Reid

02/23/2009

I’m not sure what you believe but I believe that God will spare Sol any pain and suffering.  God loves and watches over his animals.  You are “super pug woman” for taking in Sol and giving her the love she deserves and God will bless you for it.  Pug hugs and prayers coming from the Reid’s house to your house.

Love, Mandy, Manda and Rosco Reid

Brenda

02/23/2009

Whatever decision you make will be the right one because you have Sol’s best interest at heart. She is so fortunate to have found your family. Lots of love and prayers are coming to you and your pugs from Texas.

Lex

02/23/2009

Oh the poor thing and poor you guys! My heart and thoughts are with you.
It is a shame that you won’t find out how large the actual tumor is the day of the surgery.
I’m am sure that whatever decision you make will be the best one for Sol. smile

Natalie

02/23/2009

We faced a similar decision with our beloved Buster a few years back. He was 13 and had led the best of pug lives imaginable. He had a tumor in his hip that was making it almost impossible for him to walk. We ultimately decided not to do the surgery because of his age, and instead we did everything possible to make his last days as comfortable and wonderful as possible. To this day I’m still not sure if it was the “right” decision, but I do know that no matter what, he had a good life. How lucky for Sol to have found such a wonderful family to help her get through this, no matter what happens.
Good luck and you’ll be in all of our prayers!

tracy

02/23/2009

whatever you decide is based on love so that alone will ensure you make the best decision. you can’t live your life wondering “what if, if you had chosen a different path”. sol knows she is loved and you’re doing the best you can for her with the information you get.  i don’t envy you your choices though.  it will be a difficult road either way and i wish you and sol all the best!

Connie

02/23/2009

Your story brought tears to my eyes. I can’t imagine what you and Sol must be going through, much less having to make such a decision. Just thinking about our babies being in pain is enough to put me over the edge.
I am praying for you all and I know you will make the best decision for Sol. Trust that everything will be okay.
Big hug,
Connie and Lucy

Erin

02/23/2009

No matter what decision you make, just know that it is the right one. Sol is so lucky to have landed with you, no matter the outcome.

Sue VDB

02/23/2009

I do not mean to offend anyone, but for those of us who believe in prayer, here us a Novena prayer to be said for 9 consecutive days.  It is rather long for this site, but I do believe it is worth it.

Heavenly Father, our human ties with our frinds of other species is wonderful and special gift from You.  We now ask You to grant our special animal companion your Fatherly care and healing power to take away any suffering they have.  Give us, their human friends, new understanding of our responsibilities to these creatures of Yours.  They have trust in us as we have in You; our souls and theirs are on this earth together to give one another friendship, sffection, and caring. Take our heartfelt prayers and fill Your ill or suffering animals with healing Light and strength to overcome whatever weakness of body they have.  LORD, I specifically lift up to You the needs of SOL.  Your goodness is turned upon every living thing and Your grace flows to all Your creatures.  From our souls to theirs goodness flows, touching each of us with the reflection of Your love.  Grant to our special animal companions long and healthy lives.  Give them good relationships with us, and if You see fit to take them from us, help us to understand that they are not gone from us, but only drawing close to You.  Grant our prayer through the intercession of good St. Francis of Assisi, who honored You through all Your creatures.  Give him the power to watch over our animal friends until they are safely with You in eternity, where we someday hope to join them in giving you honor forever. Amen.

Laurie

02/23/2009

Dear dear ones,

My thoughts are so conflicted, I had to make the choice with my best friend Boston a mere 1 and a half ago…it is never easy. I wonder to this day if I did it too quickly.  I think we will always second guess ourselves in this monumental decisions.  I weighed QUALITY vs QUANTITY and quality was the winner and should be the winner every time.

Quality…
Given that fact that Sol is getting along in her years, and that apparently the tumor hasn’t bothered her or seemingly so, her vitals are excellent for a girlie of her advanced age, she has no abnormalities in her liver and kidney functions these are good indicators.  She has found a wonderful forever home where she is loved, respected and lives harmoniously amongst her pug pack, probably the best she has ever had it…  Good quality..

Quantity…
If she were to undergo such a procedure, would she ever ever get back to the quality she now maintains?  and truly how much longer, if an educated individual can determine will this invasive procedure would optimally permit.  The life expectancy for an otherwise healthy pug is what 13-15 years?

To me if she were a younger girl with adverse affects of the tumor whose prognosis was favorable given the invasiveness of the surgery…and of course money were not an issue…it is the elephant in the room, honestly, we hate it to be but it is..I would absolutely go forward with hopes of through the pain and suffering a new found longevity would be afforded her and she would be healthier than before.  She is 12 or 13 years old, though.


Use your heart and your head, but your heart, know that whatever decision you reach you will struggle wanting to know if it is the right one…you will decide and it WILL be the right one because you have made it with your love of her and the responsibility for her that you take so very seriously. 

I don’t envy you your task, but I have faith in you and your love for your “pack” to know you will do what is best for her.

Be brave, she knows you love her-no matter what.

Nicole (:

02/23/2009

Poor little Sol.  But at least now she’s living with some of the world’s best pug people, who have had their ups and downs with pug care, like Benny’s ripped nail, Henry’s knee, Luna’s eye fungus and eye problems among other things.
She’s lucky to have you.

But just as a general question, how expensive are these procedures?
I mean, Lucy’s special food is $30.00 a bag, and that’s just food?
I’m just curious.  I know insurance agencies don’t cover pet problems.

Patty B.

02/23/2009

I’m heartsick trying to imagine what you all must be going through and the terribly difficult decisions that are yet to be made.  We all know and have all stated that precious little Sol couldn’t be in better or more loving care than she is with you.  I’m sure that the thought of Sol or any Pug (or any pet, for that matter)being in even the tiniest bit of pain is unbearable and you will make a wise, informed, kind and loving decision. Sol will always know that she finally found a forever home with brothers and a sister and a Mom and Dad who love her and will keep her safe and happy for the rest of her beautiful life.  We’re all pulling for you, little girl!  And we all love you so very much.

Lauren

02/23/2009

I know that this is hard! When I take my pug, Molly, to the vet, or anything to do concerning her health I get nervous and hope that she is healthy and happy, or going to be in the very near future. “Just lettin you know…I’m prayin for youu gurl [Sol] it’s gonna be ok. Whatever your mama decides you know it is for the best!”

Llana

02/23/2009

I read this blog religiously everyday at work.Im sitting at my desk all teary and blotchy after reading this….

Heather

02/24/2009

I have been off-line all day…read this first thing, but then could never get back…and haven’t had a second to appropriately express myself to the situation…and I’m still scrambling late tonight and don’t have proper time…but I just need to say love will overcome it all…I will write more tomorrow when I’m back on normal time…but I know, no matter what, Sol is in THE BEST hands…and that picture seems to say, “Yeah, that’s right…I’m in the perfect place with the perfect family…no worries”...

Liz

02/24/2009

I’m so sorry you are faced with this decision.  We lost our pug’s best friend, our lab mix Bailey,  1.5 year ago due to the same type of cancer.  It was in her upper jaw and was progressing so rapidly we had to let her go.  The surgery would remove so much of her jaw eating would not have been possible.  We weighed so many factors into this decision and will miss her forver.  She protected all of us from squirrels and those pesky UPS trucks.  She was a gem. 

Best to you and the pugs,
Liz, Dan, Taz the Pug, Junior the Bernese and our 2 legged babies Declan and Cassie.

sue s

02/24/2009

Dear Sol and family, This is tough wnating to make Sol comfortable and not wanting her to endure suffering-it’s hard to balance. Your heart and Sol-will give you the direction that is best for all. I will continue to pray for you and your sweet puggy family and especially Sol. I can’t help but feel the right answer is just ahead for you. Peace & Blessings!

Sleighbelle

02/24/2009

Sue VBD and Laurie, Your posts were awesome.  I so agree that prayer is the answer.  God will show you the right path. And Laurie, quality vs quantity is such a necessary consideration as well. Sol we love you!

Karen B

02/26/2009

Sue VDB, thanks for sharing the novena.  I had never heard this and I’m glad I have it now.

I, too, believe in the quality of life when it comes to furry friends.  It breaks my heart to see an animal in pain and know that I can’t love the pain away.

I know whatever decision you make will be the most merciful and caring choice.  You have opened your hearts to this little girl and I think she knows that you have been her guardian angels.  I hope she lives her life out with you, pain free and with the utmost dignity.  I think we owe our pug babies that…

Alicia

02/26/2009

I fell in love with that face from the first moment I saw her.  You can see her soul through her eyes.  Hence her name.  I will say the novena for her and for of you all.  I swear it works. May you have peace, and in that peace, you will make the right decision for her.  I wish for her more time with you.

Cathy Shatka

02/27/2009

Hi- I just got, essentially, the same horrible news for my Pug, Chloe.  She turned 11 on November 17, 2008.  I am devastated. To look at her—she’s healthy and well! I am beside myself with anger, disbelief and all of the other kinds of emotions this brings. Why her? I don’t want to put her through hell just so that I can have her with me a little extra time. On the other hand, if she doesn’t have anything done in terms of her jaw (ie- removal) she will quietly serve the death sentence bestowed upon her. In time, the pain will become excruciating. I’m not ready to let her go—she’s not ready to go.  It’s just devastating.

Sue VDB

02/27/2009

Cathy, I am so very, very sorry about your little Chloe.  My heart just rips apart whenever I hear bad news about our babies, even if I don’t know them.  I will be sure to include your little Chloe in the Novena I am saying for Sol, and pray for you too.

Cathy Shatka

02/27/2009

Thank you.  Unfortunately, I am at work today.  It’s really tough. I am crying at my desk, etc.

I want to just go to a room, be by myself and cry… let it all out.

If anyone else reading my post has any experience about this, I welcome the communication.  I know Sol is still debating what to do.  Again, mine is fresh- just heard last night, February 26th. 

Thank you.

Karen B

02/27/2009

Cathy, I am so sorry to hear your news about Chloe.  I know all of our hearts bleed when we hear of a beautiful little pug in trouble! They are so precious and give nothing but unconditional love and it’s so hard to understand why they must go through these things.  We, as their humans, though, must see to it that they are comfortable and well-loved so that their suffering is minimized at all costs. 

My heart goes out to you and OBP, knowing that tough decisions must be made but I know you will make the right decisions!!  Blessings to all!

Stacy and Brutus

02/27/2009

Hi there, I thought I had posted on this, came back to read again and see if there were any updates and realized I didn’t post. The dilemma you are in made me cry. Sol is so lucky to have stumbled into your life. I know whatever decision you make is for the best. I so enjoy hearing about your pugs.

Heather & Pugsley

02/28/2009

Hi Cathy-

I was visiting Brutus’s blog and heard about SOL.  My thoughts and prayers are with you in this situation.  I was a vet tech for 10+ years and I seen lots of dog owners dealing with hard decisions.

The best advice I could give owners is to listen to Sol.  She will tell you when she has had enough and is ready to go.  That may sound weird, but you will know when she is telling you that enough is enough.

Give Sol lots if hugs and kisses for us:)
Heather & Pugsley

Corrine - OBP

02/28/2009

Thank you everyone for the well wishes!  Your support really means a lot.  I will be sure to post an update next week with our decision.

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